Merge

Corporal (CPL) Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 68

Hi guys

War and I go way back. I saw him on today and we did some catching up. I heard your ts2 server runs out in about 1 month. ATM I got a deal on a ventrilo server. The server holds 50. I will cover the costs of the ventrilo server for a whole year and we could use the extra money for other things like game servers or website. I am also in talks with two people in maybe starting up a community. They have a dods and css game servers. By doing this we will have extra people to game with and have extra resources to play around with at no extra costs to us. I was thinking we could use the extra money and have a tourney in coh. Lets do this!

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

1.) Tournaments cost money?

2.) I don't think any of us are that fond with ventrillo, nor are our KMA friends in the AnA community(It's heavily involved with TS) and we are planning to switch to TS3 if I'm not mistaken.

3.) I believe there are very few to no KMA members that play CSS and DODS....

4.) We have a great community here no need to create a new one. If we made some sort of agreement we would add the CSS and DODS community to our site.

I'm not trying to be a dick or anything don't get me wrong I'm just a brutally honest person. If this was to go down it would take time, and effort from both sides. This isn't something thats going to pop up overnight by any means. Unfortunately besides Warmonger there isn't anyone that knows you(I'm assuming), and things like this would require a majority vote from the members and if you were looking to lead a CSS/DODS division under KMA tags you would have to earn the respect of the veteran members and clan leaders.

Once again I'm not trying to shoot you down, work at it earn our trust and time will tell if you truly devoted to the furthered expansion and success of this clan.

Sergeant First Class (SFC) Joined: Jan 18, 2007 Posts: 197

Well Mustang I talked with him about this and I support it.....They have great players as well as very good people to play with...I think you were a little obtuse with him considering our COH division has been stagnate for quiet a while....I for one would love to have more clanmates to get games in COH....This is a personal friend of mine and his clan is willing to put KMA tags on for us...They would represent our clan in a very positive manner...It would be nice to get active again in the TWL ladders as I used to be...This is a multi-game clan and Axis and Allies is seriously on the downhill slope...No one is actively recruiting right now in the COH division at all...Me and Goldy are all for expansion and bringing new members to our clan to support other games...Who else would volunteer their money to help us in the hopes of expanding their gaming fun and members??? Not many...So I think before people slam the door they should look at things a little more openminded and think of the bigger picture...I would not have asked him to make this posts if I thought we were closeminded..

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:22 am

as for coh recruited we havent recruit nobody Monger, last guys what joined us was Rabz and Garry if im not wrong , god bless Pain for bringin them in and he should stay that way,if he cant be as much as he used to atleast he can visit website ( post in member section ) about mine and Mongers recrut plan's

Corporal (CPL) Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 68

I just want make some things clear. If for some reason you don't like this you can leave. No one has a gun to your head demanding you to stay; however we can say how good or bad it is until we blue in the face. We will not fully know how it will work until we try it. Everyone will have all their admin rights carried over. Everyone will have say. We will discuss things before anything happens. As long as we are all on the same page we will have no issues at all. I feel what we should be talking about is when to start this up. I know this will be good for both parties and I really have my heart into getting this started. You guys have nothing to lose but everything to gain. Its my money paying for the vent server. You guys will save some cash for other things and we will have more people to get games with. For the people that don't like vent I dont know why. It has way better sound than ts2. For the people that don't know how to use it, I will spend time explaining it to u. I will also be willing to have a meeting with everyone on ts or ventrilo to discuss this. Any other questions or concerns then please respond to this. Lets get this done.

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

Warmonger wrote:

So I think before people slam the door they should look at things a little more openminded and think of the bigger picture...I would not have asked him to make this posts if I thought we were closeminded..

I'm not slamming the door, im listing my concerns about this whole thing. General concerns i think should be understood and addressed before the whole thing goes down. Rushing into this will only cause problems, i understand what they are offering but this clan isnt all about money, its about the community. Yes it is nice to have extra cash floating around to play with, but the second you get money involved with something as a tourney, a fun community tournament becomes a pissing match. I highly oppose the involvement of money in ANY competition, this a community where we play for the fun of it, not the win or the reward.

panzer wrote:

I just want make some things clear. If for some reason you don't like this you can leave.

Excuse me? Ive been here for almost 3 years and you expect to gain support for this by telling me to fuck off if i don't like it? I don't take kindly to that, I won't take that from someone that isn't even in the clan nonetheless has no idea what this clan is about.

And vent really doesnt have a noticeable difference in sound quality stacked against TS (It's more of a matter of the microphone the person is using) I've used both, sometimes at the same time. I see no reason to make the leap to vent as 100% of our member base is well versed in TS. We recently had this discussion on our forums and everyone shot down the idea of moving to vent.

Warmonger I know you know this guy from way back, but this is a big thing to suddenly thrust upon us and not expect some hesitation towards doing it. It's not just about skill or money that people bring to the KMA table, its fun character and a sense of betterment for the clan. And at the moment im not convinced there is any character or betterment being laid down.

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 5:39 pm

I dont mind ventrilo at all.

Sergeant First Class (SFC) Joined: Jan 18, 2007 Posts: 197

Well first of all I am not rushing into anything either....I merely had him post a suggestion in the forums...I've spoken with Gunny and Danish about this as well and they seem willing to start recruiting new members in COH as well....I dont understand why Panzer made that remark about "you can leave", unless his feelings were hurt or something...I didn't support that remark either, however this guy is not an immature child I've spent alot times in game with him and he is very respectful and has a real team calibered mindset....Me and Goldy would like to see more members in our COH division is all this boils down to....It wasn't meant to ruffle feathers but merely entertain an idea...I have no authority to say this is the way it's gonna be or else lol....That's why I had him post this for our clans consent....I guess he failed to mention in his first posts that he had been talking to me about this and it appears to be like a hostile takeover from those who didn't know the root of the post...Thx, Whoremonger...........

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

its all good, remarks like that just get under my skin. I'm all for more members in the division, but trying to do 5 other things along with it makes it a hard sell ya know? Why dont we start with just merging into CoH and the other stuff can come later?

Corporal (CPL) Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 68

Instead of this battle on words lets talk about it on ts or vent like I said. This way there will be no misunderstandings and everyone will be on the same page.

Posted: Sat Feb 13, 2010 9:12 pm

Well Im one of the leader´s in COH division pain is division founder.
I guess i have to say some things about this.
My game name in Coh is by the way KMARedbaron or KMAVonRichofen

So to the thing we have to discuss.
1. I dont think Vent is any good at all.
It´s prob good if u really know how to use it. Ts is just logg on and ur there.
Since ivé been on vent pretty much doing raids and stuff so i know about it.
2. Yes i talked to Warmonger about this and i said it would be nice to have more players in Coh.
3. I have to explain how KMA works first thing is that KMA is split into divisions. It means that any other div doesnt inlvolves with another. A division in kma has a division founder in this case KMApain, then we have div leaders that will be me in Coh div. Then we have A&A div and Bf2 div world in conflict div wow div and so on.
Then we have Jaxsainst that´s Clan founder and the ruler of all. But he doesnt care what happens in the Divisions. It´s up to div founders and div leaders.
Spastic is our Webbsite maker and the Ts master.
Well that was that to the merge or whatever we should call it. Dont take me wrong there.
if u wanna do this the merge will only be to the Coh div of KMA not the rest of KMA.
If Coh div decides to use Vent we will do that.
But the rest of KMA will still be on Ts3 when it comes out.
note nr 2 KMA has always been playing for fun no money or nothing involved. If u wanna play tourneys for money well it´s up to the Tourney hosters and Div leaders in coh.
But in the end of all this i just said IF we gona merge or do somthing to get more ppl in Coh it´s all good but keep in mind THIS WILL ONLY INVLOVE KMA COH DIVISION AND NOT THE WHOLE OF KMA.
If ur on ts come down and talk to me im usally in Wow channel on ts or sometimes in coh channel.
(Dont make this a spam fest i will only tolerate good answers and respectfullness)
Any other mess and I´ll delete it.

Corporal (CPL) Joined: Feb 12, 2010 Posts: 68

I talked to several people about this and everyone told me it was fine. I spent some time creating the rooms in ventrilo. If you don't like how they are set up please feel free to change them. Here is the ventrilo details:

ip: 69.25.95.172

port: 23001

pw: cfu (all lowercase)

My name in ventrilo is panzer. See me so I can set your account up for you.

Enjoy

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

Panzer got me and gunny server admin and all that jazz so you can talk to us about getting your account setup on vent aswell