Im gonna start playing COH...

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 10:29 am

Hey guys, I've decided to buy a new computer to allow me to play one of my most favourite games Company of Heroes Very Happy

. One problem through, i want to put the settings on high so in order to do that i need a kick ass graphics (video) card. Im open for suggestions, and it would also be very nice if the graphics (video) card is very good and can allow me to play all games on high settings. My price range is between 100$ - 300$. Your help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.

-Canadian_Army

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 11:28 am

Well in that price range your looking at ATI HD 4870 or 4870x2 if you find bargain. I take it 300 is your max budget for graphic card?

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 1:40 pm

gaeld wrote:

Well in that price range your looking at ATI HD 4870 or 4870x2 if you find bargain. I take it 300 is your max budget for graphic card?

Im looking for a graphics card that will ensure settings on high for COH, and if possible settings on high for several other games (example: IL2 Sturmovik: Birds of Prey, the entire coh series,and Company of Heroes Tales of valour). The price doesnt matter, all i need at the moment is suggestions Very Happy

Thanks for help through Smile

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:05 pm

For COH or pretty much any other game the HD 4870 is best bang for bucks.

Posted: Mon Mar 16, 2009 2:12 pm

gaeld wrote:

For COH or pretty much any other game the HD 4870 is best bang for bucks.

So i buy the Hd 4870? If yes DUDE THANKS! Very Happy

Posted: Tue Mar 17, 2009 3:59 am

I say yes go for it, built system for step son with HIS 4870 and was really impressed with performance. I run gtx 280 h2oc for my own system which is much more expensive but choice was only because i run watercooled PC and HD4870 had limited waterblock choice at the time.You can expect equal performance from 4870 and if you feel the need to upgrade later on you can just add another one in crossfire(2 4870 in crossfire better than 1 4870x2).Let me know how u get on when system finished.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:13 am

gaeld wrote:

I say yes go for it, built system for step son with HIS 4870 and was really impressed with performance. I run gtx 280 h2oc for my own system which is much more expensive but choice was only because i run watercooled PC and HD4870 had limited waterblock choice at the time.You can expect equal performance from 4870 and if you feel the need to upgrade later on you can just add another one in crossfire(2 4870 in crossfire better than 1 4870x2).Let me know how u get on when system finished.

One more quedtion, what type of processor should i get? 500gb?

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 8:51 am

Well processor is really a question of budget; if your flushed go for Core i7 system as they're best processor around. other wise I'll suggest quad core in either 45 or 65 nm format but need to know your budget to make recommendation, also depends on motherboard and if you're ready to overclock it.
For example my system is q6600 GO stepping that overclock safely to 3.2ghz but got the right motherboard to do so(abit IP35 pro XE) with watercooling to keep system safe. Too many variable to suggest one processor in particular but if you give me a budget I can give you a couple of complete system suggestion and use it as template for you to choose from. I live in UK so price wise for hardware i'll try match canadian dollar as much as possible or tell me where you usualy get your hardware from so i'll pick from their site. Just post here or Email me and I see what I can do.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:00 am

gaeld wrote:

Well processor is really a question of budget; if your flushed go for Core i7 system as they're best processor around. other wise I'll suggest quad core in either 45 or 65 nm format but need to know your budget to make recommendation, also depends on motherboard and if you're ready to overclock it.
For example my system is q6600 GO stepping that overclock safely to 3.2ghz but got the right motherboard to do so(abit IP35 pro XE) with watercooling to keep system safe. Too many variable to suggest one processor in particular but if you give me a budget I can give you a couple of complete system suggestion and use it as template for you to choose from. I live in UK so price wise for hardware i'll try match canadian dollar as much as possible or tell me where you usualy get your hardware from so i'll pick from their site. Just post here or Email me and I see what I can do.

I could go up too 400-500$, but im buying my pc from a store that lets you build it yourself ( they ask what type of things you want in it). In total im looking for a pc at atleast 1500$, and i play mostly video games on a pc. So i need a pc that wont crash or lag but will also be pretty tough.

By the way man you dont know how much your help is worth too me. You must be one kick ass computer engineer. In my opinion you rock in pcs Very Happy

Thanks

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:40 am

What's the store website and what base you chosen , put a link if you can.
I'm building PC's as hobby, not a professional at all. Happy to help.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 9:49 am

gaeld wrote:

What's the store website and what base you chosen , put a link if you can.
I'm building PC's as hobby, not a professional at all. Happy to help.

Their website is :

http://www.superinfotech.com/list.pdf

I live In quebec so some words are in french. Their website is pretty ok not the best but, you could give me some recomendations on what to buy. Oh ya and the base well, at that store you choose how large you want the base just incase you want to add or remove things. And, should i get vista or xp professional because if i choose vista ill be more up to date.

P.S. can you name me the most essential parts of a pc? Like processor,hardrive, etc....

THANKS! Very Happy

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 11:27 am

No worries I'm french anyway, will look into it and post back what I think is good compromise for $1500 complete desktop with OS.

Posted: Wed Mar 18, 2009 12:45 pm

OK gone through their price list and here's what i came up with:
-Asus P5Q deluxe(make sure bios been updated for 45nm full support)
-E8500 3.16ghz dual core (best your budget will allow and enough grunt for any game)
-2gb ballistix tracer 1066mhz (great memory that will overclock easily to 1200mhz)
-Coolermaster pro 600w power supply
-1gb Sapphire HD4870 graphics card
-2 x LG DVD RW
-Western digital 500gb hard drive
-Antec 900 revision 2 case (easy building case and good cooling)
-XP home edition (forget vista it crashes too much in games)
You'll notice I didn't include sound and network card as motherboard already include decent sound and connection but get yourself an upgrade later and use your cash where it matters for now.The total come to $1498 and you got yourself all the essential.Asus motherboard comes with overclocking software that shall enable you to increase performance but you shouldn't need to, it's also crossfire enable so you can add another identical graphics card in the future. I will definitly recommend that you ask supplier about Bios update and if they can flash it for you, if you never done it before it could give you problem despite Asus Bios Flash utility being quite straight forward. I didn't mention any peripheral such as monitor,speakers,keyboard ,etc.. since you must already have all that but will recommend 24" monitor at minimum 5ms response time to make the best of your graphics card.
Hope that answers your question, if not let me know.

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:21 pm

gaeld wrote:

OK gone through their price list and here's what i came up with:
-Asus P5Q deluxe(make sure bios been updated for 45nm full support)
-E8500 3.16ghz dual core (best your budget will allow and enough grunt for any game)
-2gb ballistix tracer 1066mhz (great memory that will overclock easily to 1200mhz)
-Coolermaster pro 600w power supply
-1gb Sapphire HD4870 graphics card
-2 x LG DVD RW
-Western digital 500gb hard drive
-Antec 900 revision 2 case (easy building case and good cooling)
-XP home edition (forget vista it crashes too much in games)
You'll notice I didn't include sound and network card as motherboard already include decent sound and connection but get yourself an upgrade later and use your cash where it matters for now.The total come to $1498 and you got yourself all the essential.Asus motherboard comes with overclocking software that shall enable you to increase performance but you shouldn't need to, it's also crossfire enable so you can add another identical graphics card in the future. I will definitly recommend that you ask supplier about Bios update and if they can flash it for you, if you never done it before it could give you problem despite Asus Bios Flash utility being quite straight forward. I didn't mention any peripheral such as monitor,speakers,keyboard ,etc.. since you must already have all that but will recommend 24" monitor at minimum 5ms response time to make the best of your graphics card.
Hope that answers your question, if not let me know.

But why home edition, i was thinking like maybe Xp professional. Anyways youre the pro:D. Also, what is a Bios update (its too clarirify what it is, and too also explain to the guy) ? And the monitor, 5ms response whats that? Im sorry if i sound really dumb right now its just that im about to spend 1500$ and i wanna make sure what im getting into Sad

. (EDIT) Oh ya at that store i can buy (with the computer) a CD and DVD burner for 40$ each in the computer. I think its pretty good and, you can still play cds or dvds in it Very Happy

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P.S. What is your email, or MSN if you have. Just in case i need a quick response (thank you by the way).

Thanks Very Happy

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 4:51 pm

OK, first the BIOS is what runs the settings of your motherboard and make it more efficient and stable, the tech guys at superinfotech will know what it is if not then you should worry. It's important to have it up to date but you can run it with original BIOS without any problems. just like drivers for graphics card it helps fixing any problem that might have been left unsolved at first release or for the case of your processor makes sure it's running at it's best. Your motherboard was built for the kind of processor I've chosen so you'll be fine but I'm sure there is newer BIOS that will help make it run even better. If they can't do it then don't worry and just go for it as it is.As for XP pro I don't think you need the extra option it gives you considering your gonna be mostly gaming but it's up to you(not worse the extra $60 since you seem to be pretty novice).As for 5ms for monitor it is response time the less the better, for gaming it is the minimum you should go for but 2ms is the best, most 24" are at 5ms but 22" are nowadays at 2ms.
You can always post here or use personal message to contact, I usualy check website couple of times everyday so will answer same day if you got any problem. We all had to learn sometime so I don't mind helping out.

Posted: Thu Mar 19, 2009 5:43 pm

gaeld wrote:

OK, first the BIOS is what runs the settings of your motherboard and make it more efficient and stable, the tech guys at superinfotech will know what it is if not then you should worry. It's important to have it up to date but you can run it with original BIOS without any problems. just like drivers for graphics card it helps fixing any problem that might have been left unsolved at first release or for the case of your processor makes sure it's running at it's best. Your motherboard was built for the kind of processor I've chosen so you'll be fine but I'm sure there is newer BIOS that will help make it run even better. If they can't do it then don't worry and just go for it as it is.As for XP pro I don't think you need the extra option it gives you considering your gonna be mostly gaming but it's up to you(not worse the extra $60 since you seem to be pretty novice).As for 5ms for monitor it is response time the less the better, for gaming it is the minimum you should go for but 2ms is the best, most 24" are at 5ms but 22" are nowadays at 2ms.
You can always post here or use personal message to contact, I usualy check website couple of times everyday so will answer same day if you got any problem. We all had to learn sometime so I don't mind helping out.

Ok i made a list tell me if im missing anything you said:

-Asus P5Q deluxe(make sure bios been updated for 45nm full support)
-E8500 3.16ghz dual core
-2gb ballistix tracer 1066mhz
-Coolermaster pro 600w power supply
-1gb Sapphire HD4870 graphics card
-2 x LG DVD RW
-Western digital 500gb hard drive
-Antec 900 revision 2 case
-Asus Bios Flash update ( is there a way i could be more specific just in case)
- 1 HD 4870 video card (certain company?)
-5ms 24 inch screen (2ms if possible right cause its better?)

I think thats all i would have too buy speakers and a wireless keyboard and mouse. Can you recommend a good keyboard, speakers and mouse, and also tell me if going wireless is a good idea.

These are the speakers,keyboard and mouse im going for:

Speakers: http://www.staples.ca/ENG/Catalog/cat_sku.asp?CatIds=&webid=659684&affixedcode=WW

Mouse: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://eprim.org/i/0808/logitech-mx1100-cordless-mouse-2.jpg&imgrefurl=http://eprim.org/2008/08/24/pheripherals/ergonomic-miracle-logitech-mx1100-cordless-laser-mouse/&usg=__qbv3wLttGhIRgEGVvi7YomSw5Gw=&h=351&w=400&sz=46&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=pgxEyUpPxolvAM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dlogitech%2Bwireless%2Brecharge%2Bmouse%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1

Keyboard (1st image at top of page): http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.getprice.com.au/images/uploadimg/233/350_product1_10589.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.getprice.com.au/Logitech-Deluxe-DX660-Wireless-Keyboard-Mouse-set-Value-purchase-Gpnc_44--35264472.htm&usg=__bDAnEMdkCsj08FYCXvI-GM6RB5o=&h=264&w=284&sz=73&hl=en&start=7&um=1&tbnid=LSt7T62jxHk-vM:&tbnh=106&tbnw=114&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwireless%2Blogitech%2B350%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

Wireless Speakers :O: http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://img.tomshardware.com/us/2005/11/01/holiday_buyers_guide_2005/05hbg-logitech-z5450.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/holiday-buyers-guide-2005,1162-31.html&usg=__SHZpVKs2qZH9dz_48cGlUkscuAs=&h=319&w=425&sz=13&hl=en&start=12&um=1&tbnid=Alcz97zyzJlAyM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=126&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwireless%2Blogitech%2Bspeakers%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

OR

http://images.google.ca/imgres?imgurl=http://www.audioholics.com/audioholics/images/logitechz4speakers.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.audioholics.com/news/trade-show-coverage/2005-cedia-expo/logitech-z-5450-z-4-wireless-5-1-surround-sound-speaker-system&usg=__DqrkO1cPGHtP3XJrr183EGqoCio=&h=432&w=800&sz=42&hl=en&start=13&um=1&tbnid=zKlNfDHZw-By7M:&tbnh=77&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dwireless%2Blogitech%2Bspeakers%26hl%3Den%26um%3D1

Headset: http://webtown.typepad.com/webtown/images/2008/04/05/logitec_skype_bluetooth_headset.jpg

Thanks!!!!!! Very Happy

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Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 7:26 am

Don't play it! stick with A&A! =(

hahaha I love CoH but im not a big fan of waiting so I dont play it, prepare to wear glasses because when you play this game, you will spend hours and hours per day.

Posted: Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:03 am

XtremeChaos wrote:

Don't play it! stick with A&A! =(

hahaha I love CoH but im not a big fan of waiting so I dont play it, prepare to wear glasses because when you play this game, you will spend hours and hours per day.

Dude i will problably never give up axis and allies. COH is pretty complicated, could take me weeks to master it Smile

. I should be on Axis And Allies in a couple of hours (1 or 2).

Cya Smile

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:01 pm

Canadian_Army wrote:

COH is pretty complicated, could take me weeks to master it Smile

That line made me scratch my head. Weeks? Isnt CoH the almost like A&A? You havent mastered A&A yet why would you think you would master CoH in weeks lol Laughing

Posted: Sun Mar 22, 2009 12:34 pm

XtremeChaos wrote:

Canadian_Army wrote:

COH is pretty complicated, could take me weeks to master it Smile

That line made me scratch my head. Weeks? Isnt CoH the almost like A&A? You havent mastered A&A yet why would you think you would master CoH in weeks lol Laughing

Dont you dare insult me Razz

lol i was rly over exgerrating but i will take a pic and upload here as soon as i install my pc =)