Processor usage spikes...

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

OK, ive been having some majpr processor problems lately, the usage jsut spikes randomly, sometimes when the computer is idle windows indexes files, but i turned it off, becuase it still didnt help. My pc is clean from the most well known viruses, and spyware so i think img ood there heres a picture of what it does:

Note: the massive lagg spike towards the end..wtf?

I also noticed that my system is doing something..funky..dunno wut it is but heres a pic:

Posted: Tue Apr 10, 2007 7:48 pm

hmm not real familiar with what "cpu 54" means - but it looks like it's memory footprint is very small. I would think its a process that takes up more ram than that... but, who knows.

does it do it still if you unplug your network cable and use pc offline?

Posted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 11:56 pm

dude thats fucked up. system idle process should be near 100% when idle. i've never seen the system process suck up that much cpu power.

my system process is currently at 00 and system idle process at 98.

maybe u could change the priority of it... im not really sure what the hell is wrong... could it be the power supply? get this program i use called RivaTuner. it is a great overclocking program but also has a system monitor feature that will show changes in power output.

get it herehttp://downloads.guru3d.com/download.php?det=163

Good luck!

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:49 am

If you look more closly:

Windows: 5%
System: 54%
System Idle: 39%

Your system Idle is wrothless, don't count that pro or con against your preformance. I would be interested your RAM amount, Virtual Memory Allocation, and CPU Ratings. That would help me better narrow the field of possible causes.

Are you on dial up?

Is your network traffic highened at the time of your CPU Spike?

The System is a conglomeration of programs, not just Windows, but anything that is inside it that isnt specifically stated in another location. For instance: Your vidio card activity would be considered System Activity, as well as your LAN Card, Sound Card, or any other invisiable device that you have installed, that doesnt show up on that list.

Also, system contains a list of services that dont show up as processes, but deffinently act the same way.

Try This:

Go to Start >> Run >> Msconfig

Choose the services tab. Right there is a list of a lot of the things running under the safty net of "System". Viruses, spyware, and other bullshit can hide here under the blanket protection of Windows, and the scan programs won't pick it up. Hide the "So-Called" all microsoft servies and it will hide many of the obviously legit things that are running.

(On another note, hop on over to "Startup" tab and you can see all the programs that are loading at windows startup. Mustang I dont think this area is your problem because you have only 33 processes running, I just wanted to point it out to everyone else)

This may sound stupid, but how many users are logged onto your computer? Another user's activities would also show up under the "System" blanket of protection. Easily checked, but I have once encountered a super machine with over 15 users all logged in sending spam emails and other crap. (Had to re-format that one)

I would highly advise against installing hawkeye's system voltage monitor. One more program to zap energy out of your already ailling processor. (If that is actually the case) Your computer already has a highly efficent system monitor that has that function called a BOIS. You can check your voltage and tempruture settings in there. 32 celcius is a nice number. Somewhere in your owner's manuel, CPU documentation, or if nothing else the manufacturer's website should have documentation stating what your normal core temp should be.

Don't overclock your system until your ready to buy a new computer, because there is no telling when somthing might burn. I have seen brand new systems burn with a 1% hike and old systems run fine on 200% hikes. Things burn, a lot. Be safe, don't overlock.

Ill try to keep an eye on this forum if you have any more questions.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 3:36 pm

overclocking is perfectly safe as long as your system has the proper cooling. a mild ambient temp means less increase in core temp under load. as for that program, it overclocks GPU but also the GPU fan so it balances out to no increse in temp, with a noticable increase in performance. i wouldnt think to overclock CPU unless i replaced the stock CPU fan.

Posted: Fri Apr 13, 2007 5:09 pm

Im backing spruence on this one.

Dont you dare overclock your CPU unless you are ready to buy a new one. And for those of you who dont know...them CPU's run VERY hot. To upgrade the cooling capacity of your CPU, you will have to go to liquid cooling. Thats radiators, coolant, and pumps/fans etc. A lot of trouble for cranking your CPU up. And you have to keep the heat sinks SPOTLESS, otherwise you will gain heat in your system.

As for the system...again I back spru on this one. Your system appears to have 1GB of ram and that the system overheads arent too hard. The only problem is that you have a background application running. Have you checked to see what your network throughbit rate is? Or how much data has been sent/received? IF you arent doing anything on the web and you are uploading gigabytes of info...then something is amiss.

It appears your system could be a clone. Them spikes indicate that your CPU is executing a program, or code. Could be that its sending communication every so often. Maybe your spyware/adware checks havent picked up that your PC could be a virus/spam email clone.

The other thing could be as per what spru said...your network card etc communicating. You have something running successively in the background, yet it comes under the 'system' section. Do what spru said...its the only option I would do (cant think of anything else at the moment)

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

Well its fixed, there was a windows update, i installed it and restarted, seems to be fine now, and no it wasnt do to any network issues, the system would randomly use 56% of the cpu every 3-5 seconds, apperently it was a system file that was either missing, or corrupted, which was fixed by the windows update.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 2:30 pm

its not memory because you have 1gb of mem with about 400000mg left so that not it.

here a list of things that could cause it

sound card
graphic card
the CPU it self (need upgrade)
needs defrag
windows probably needs rapair
and one more thing that can turn serous is your power supply maybe going out on you
oh yah and the hdd (hard drive)

i hope this helps Wink

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 3:12 pm

Gcommando wrote:

its not memory because you have 1gb of mem with about 400000mg left so that not it.

here a list of things that could cause it

sound card
graphic card
the CPU it self (need upgrade)
needs defrag
windows probably needs rapair
and one more thing that can turn serous is your power supply maybe going out on you
oh yah and the hdd (hard drive)

i hope this helps Wink

Make a list of computer components, hope this helps.

Your an idiot.

Posted: Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:56 pm

what dose the make you at least i posted something that may help. maybe u should look in the merrier before u insult someone you noob. Mad

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:18 am

I could post somthing about tampons for the Queen of England on these forums, would do about as much good as your responces so far.

Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 12:26 am

lol

Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:42 am

ouch

that hurt but true

Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 2:34 pm

When you turn on your computer and it begins to boot, if its an older computer it may begin counting the amount of RAM, or a splash screen of the MOBO logo. Push the "Delete" key. A message should come up at the bottom of the screen saying "Now Entering Setup" or somthing alone those lines.

You will come to a blue or grey interface. This is the BOIS. Use the arrow keys to navigate left, right, up, and down.

For instance, about 1 year ago, I had some wires plugged into the back of my sound card, which is onboard the motherboard, running to the DVD player and TV, my brothers dog ran through and yanked on the cords destroying my sound card. I baught a new card, and put it into the motherboard. When I powered on the computer I entered the BOIS by pushing the delete key, I found the heading "On Board Device Configuration" (Yours may not be exactly the same words depending on the BOIS type) and I had to find where it said, "AC Realtek Onboard Audio" Enable or Disable. I highlighted "Enable" and pushed the "+" key to change it to disable, then save & exit. Load windows, install device drivers for my new sound card.

Your situtation is different though, your looking for your onboard vidio card. If your MOBO uses an NVidia chipset, look for somthing nvidia.

BE CAREFULL: Messing with things you don't understand in your BIOS can cause MAJOR problems. If you mess somthing up your computer won't boot and there is only 3 things you can do to fix it.

1) Try to get back into the BIOS and choose an option to load setup defaults.

2) The Computer may hang on a message and ask you if you want to enter setup or load setup/bios defaults. Choose yes and boot to windows and try again.

3) If the above two things don't work: The BOIS program is hard coded onto the motherboard itself, and if you completly hoose the system, (However Unlikely) there are what those in the computer world call "Jumpers". Without a long winded explanation, its like a circut that is open. When you close the circut, it resets the BIOS, so if you do get to this point, I want you to post and let me know, and I will find a replica photo of your mobo and write a very nice explanation of how to do this.

Don't fret, throughout my 5 years working on computers, I've only had to do that one time, and it was after overclocking and over heating my system.

It's pretty hard to mess up your BIOS.

Did you already rotate your RAM Modules?

I have another idea after you disable your onboard vidio card to fix your errors.

Secretary of Defense Joined: Feb 16, 2007 Posts: 2379

ITS FIXED NOW, I NO ABOUT BIOS I CHECKED IT ALREADY, AND IT WAS FINE, IT WAS PROB JUST A CORRUPTED FILE WHICH A WINDOWS UPDATE FIXED. SO ITS OVER NOW..IDC WHAT CUASED IT, ALL I NEED OT KNOW IS THAT TI WORKS NOW!!!!!